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new website www.ufogreyinfo.com (Click to reply)
submitted: 4/16/2009 6:03 PM
by: helene_is_here@...

I have been an experiencer since the year 2000. I originally suffered alot of fear to now after gathering lots of information,understanding and having more experiences, I finally get it! We are all one! It's all about opening up our consciousnes, evolution and learning more about ourselves. We really do fear the unknown but when you break the fear barrier there truly is Love, peace and so much more understanding on the other side. I suggest to all of you who are wanting clear and precise information then do yourself a favour and check out the most amazing, positive, informative website, www.ufogreyinfo.com. It will answer so many questions for you. Hope this helps!

what people call greys (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/19/2009 3:40 PM
by: geramicha9@...

This happened to me a few months ago. I went to bed at my usual time, sometime doing the night I woke up, standing beside the bed was a tall Being with huge black wrap around eyes, for some reason I had the feeling that the Being was female,it looked like she was disappearing into a mist that started from her legs up,for a few seconds I was able to look into her eyes and I said " I can see you" and then I was out like a light. Has any one else had this type of experience??

coming out of my shell (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/15/2009 1:45 PM
by: standbyghost@...

i am looking to connect with any researchers in the new england area regarding my contact experiences. i am 27 years old, living in the city of portland maine. i have struggled alone with these experiences for some time now - only recently have i felt compelled to share and dig deeper into this mystery. please feel free to write me an email at standbyghost@ecomail.org

i look forward to hearing from you.

RE:coming out of my shell (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/19/2009 3:54 PM
by: geramicha9@...

Hi, I'm new to this website and read your post. I'm not a researcher but in 1969 we had what people call an abduction ( this experience changed our lives) Ater all these years of searching I've come to believe that it isn't so much the experience, it's what you take away from it, a person can't help but grow in all aspects of life. If you need some one to listen and ask questions I can try and help, Since this is your personal encounter it's important that you find your own answers, don't let people push their own experiences on you.Don't go for hypnosis, you'll remember on your own when it's time.

Alien Within (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/2/2009 3:29 PM
by: alien.within@...

I personally believe the amount of people having actual experinces are far smaller than the ufo community would like you to believe.

Those having genuine encounters are not being abducted, they themselves are involved with the races from which they came. Being star seeds, souls that have incarnated into this life from other worlds, races, etc. There are very few who are not star seeds that are having these interactions. Those who aren't are having military abductions, and are falsely being left with the flase memory that it was an alien abduction.

You can read about my experinces and understanding at http://www.scribd.com/doc/11872542/Alien-Within

	RE:Alien Within (Click to reply) submitted: 3/20/2009 8:17 AM by: geramicha9@...
	Couldn't Milabs be a screen memory?? To many people are experienceing these types of memorys to just fluff it off??? I can't get java script, any other way to read your e book??

Lost 1 hour in time (Click to reply)
submitted: 2/26/2009 11:51 PM
by: 2005.sueclark@...

About a month ago I woke up and I look at my cable box and it has the correct time. It was 6:00 a.m. I was standing there and it seemed liked 5 minutes and then it was 7 a.m. I turned around and knew that one hour had gone by but it seemed like only 5 minutes.

This has shocked me. It is the first time I was aware that this has happened to me.

Has anyone ever gone through this type of thing before?

THE PROOF (Click to reply)
submitted: 2/13/2009 8:22 AM
by: alienproof@...

Don't ever forget the Zimbabwe case where sixty-two children at the Ariel school in the town of Ruwa saw two “strange beings” and a vehicle with seven smaller vehicles around it. Their interviews were recorded on camera showing their psychological trauma of feelings of close encounters with these beings. Doctor John Mack, pulitzer prize-winning Harvard professor and psychiatrist, went to Ruwa and spent two days interviewing twelve of the children: "except for the odd, difficult-to-believe nature of the episode, there was nothing about the way the children talked about it to suggest that anything had happened other than what they said." The form and shape of the alien vehicle match the description of Sara Cuevas incident in Metepec, Mexico, seven thousand miles away, on THE SAME DAY (September 16th , 1994). Mexico international airport captured a big object on echo radar and there are some physical traces on the ground. But there is more: Sara cuevas videotaped this night a strange luminous being. The analysis of the time was very poor and show nothing particular. A new analysis on May 25th 2008, reveal for the first time the face of this being. The morphological features corroborates the sighting of the children in Zimbabwe and all the testimonies since 1954 around the world:

Little being with very big eyes Big head without apparent neck between two large shoulders Hairy body with long hair on the cheek and the back No lips and no external nose Two hooks on the mandible Two antennas hearing Long arm with four long fingernails Two strong and long webbed feet Phosphorescent capacity of the body with red luminous eyes Ability to make big jump and fly without anything else Ability to communicate mentally Ability to suck the blood

The crucial question is to know if the human kind is ready to accept this disturbing reality. The proof is there: http://www.archive.org/details/AlienProof-preuveExtraterrestre

In response to the JW connection (Click to reply)
submitted: 1/9/2009 12:31 PM
by: www.wishmythos@...

I have heard that theory about Genesis 6 a long time ago. For a long time I believed it and felt that the beings were indeed the "nephilim". That was until I had my own rude awakening and discovered that "they" had been in my life since I was very young or maybe from the beginning. Because of the religious mindset that I had, I lived with tremendous guilt for years. Of those who would hear my story, church members would say that it was either something that was passed down or that it was something that I asked for. Or my favorite-that either I'm possessed or demon-oppressed. Frankly, I think it's bullshit. I think that Genesis 6 is way too vague when it comes to this subject matter. In my personal experience with "them", I have two children there, a boy and a girl. The woman that I had them with may or may not be altogether human. How is this outlined in the scriptures??? It's not. I've looked and looked, hoping that it could be explained by scripture. Do I want the torment to stop? Not now. They have a part of me wherever it is that they come from. I begged and pleaded at one time for God to make them stop and it continued, regardless. They even let me think that I had stopped an abduction by calling out Jesus' name in my mind when one of them was pulling me out of my bed. I think that religion is something to comfort others when there is simply no other explanation at all. To blame others or yourself for what has happened is a complete waste of time and energy. Do I believe in life beyond?Obviously, I do. If I've offended anyone, I apologize for nothing. I have been down that path because I was a christian who held on to his faith with a zealous fervor. My secret life came to the surface and shattered everything. I'm still picking up the pieces. If your beliefs help you cope, that is wonderful. I wish that I had that luxury.

	Jehovah Witness & UFO connection.. (Click to reply) submitted: 11/21/2008 11:58 AM by: fb130@...
	Please forgive me if I'm making anyone uneasy but my experiences with the greys involved JW literature. I know it may sound very strange but during my experiences with the greys they or something else pointed me in the JW direction. anyone else?

RE:Jehovah Witness & UFO connection.. (Click to reply)
submitted: 12/28/2008 7:00 AM
by: troycutt@...

Go here to read: The Greatest Story Ever Told http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0293/0293_01.asp

If you want the torment to stop and the real truth behind abductees and UFO/Alien experiences read the following information, please!

Genesis 6

1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with [a] man forever, for he is mortal [b] ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." 4 The Nephilim (fallen ones, angel’s / demons) were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children (giants) by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. His DNA had not been tampered with.

11The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted (man’s DNA had been tampered with to create a hybrid race to fight against the coming Christ Jesus) his way upon the earth. 13And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou saw iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Jesus said: Matthew 24:36-44 (King James Version) 36But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. John 14 1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5Thomas said unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Matthew 11 1And it came to pass, when Jesus had made an end of commanding his twelve disciples, he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities. 2Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and show John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5The blind receive their sight and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.

27All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knows the Son, but the Father; neither know any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. 28Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Romans 10 1Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes. 5Moses describes in this way the righteousness that is by the law: "The man who does these things will live by them." 6But the righteousness that is by faith says: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' " (that is, to bring Christ down) 7"or 'Who will descend into the deep?' " (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,

13for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"

The Greatest Story Ever Told http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0293/0293_01.asp

	Benevolent? (Click to reply) submitted: 10/28/2008 9:26 AM by: www.wishmythos@...
	When it came to your own experiences, did something specifically happen that demonstrated benevolence on their part? As for mine, it's been very traumatic. When does it change? I've tried to be accepting of it and everything seems to be on their terms only.

RE:Benevolent? (Click to reply)
submitted: 12/28/2008 7:00 AM
by: troycutt@...

	Does religion clash with experiences? (Click to reply) submitted: 10/27/2008 10:10 AM by: www.wishmythos@...
	As I was growing up, I had experiences that was at odds with what I was raised to believe. Has anyone else had this particular problem? If so, is there any advice that you could give me? Also, I live in Alton, Illinois. Is there anyone in this part of the country that I could talk with because although I know there's others, it still can be isolating.

	Anyone li8ving in MA ?? (Click to reply) submitted: 9/15/2008 9:23 AM by: fairfax797@...
	I am 73 years old and have had UFO/Alien experiences since i was a little girl. I have basically never discussed these experiences with anyone who understood the issues involved or shared similiar experiences. I would like to connect with someone who may be in the same situation. I live in Marlborough, MA. Is there anyone out there ??

Integrating back into society (Click to reply)
submitted: 8/25/2008 6:57 AM
by: ohioan1@...

As an experiencer, coming to terms with all that has happened is a long process and know some who still have not resolved it. To anyone listening; they are all benevolent.

"A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive." - Albert Einstein

Do we plan our life challenges before birth? (Click to reply)
submitted: 6/23/2007 11:48 PM
by: CourageousSouls@...

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Severe Psychic attack (Click to reply)
submitted: 4/14/2007 5:31 PM
by: lynmie@...

PLease...

In the early 90's I was a contactee for a group of benevolent greys although I didn't know it at the time. When I found out I was an abductee, literally at that exact moment I endured extreme psychic attack and had most of my ability to feel my emotions cut off.

I suffered for years, and then something I have been told was a data download was initiated to set me partially free.

I worked hard and was almost complete in my healing. Now things have soured...I am being attacked by reptillian ETs.

Please, is there anyone out there who can help me connect with the group of benevolent greys I used to know. I am trying so hard to get back to them.

RE:Severe Psychic attack (Click to reply)
submitted: 5/31/2007 1:55 PM
by: shelbyloree@...

Perhaps one way of reconnecting is to get your energy realigned and stablized. Your chakras are probably unbalanced, I would recommend acupuncture if it's available in your area.

Once your energy is realigned and you have stablized yourself through breathing exercises and probably some sort of dietary purge, lots of chlorella and fiber, you may begin to feel a better connection to your internal source. Sleeping in the sunlight helps a great deal too in lifting negative energies from your body.

Once you feel in contact with your own energy you may find more benevolent figures in your life. Unless of course you are already aware of these things in your previous experiences.

I would work also on your outside space, making sure your material world is not created in such a way to promote stagnant energy where negativity could lurk.

It's been my experience that the unconcious, subconcious, unknown aspects of our lives, dreams, abductions, etc. are reflections or reflected in our waking life. An imbalance causes unease, one aspect of our lives bleeds into another, dreams impose themselves on reality and so on.

Perhaps your lizard entities are trying to make you more aware of something in your waking live, or your benevolent creatures are watching and waiting to see what it is you will do.

Strength comes from within, whenever you are ready. Perhaps the benevolent creatures showed themselves to you first so when malevolent creatures came you would find the strength to endure by remembering the benevolent creatures.

By connecting with your own source, you tap into the collective source, and your alarm will be heard and things will rebalance.

Akashic access in Regression Therapy - MistakenID (Click to reply)
submitted: 2/3/2007 12:59 PM
by: paristodakar@...

There is a philosophy out there that states all that we ever do is stored in "Akashic Records" (REF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_Records).

That in regression This is often what is being accessed in lieu of the persons own memory. (Kind of like accessing a TIVO recorded program who describe recorded experiences, that are not the patients own) I know of devout and famed regression therapists whose focus is obductions that come across the exact same results/claims by different patients from time to time. The exact same.

There is an old famous TV commercial. Is It Live Or Is It Memorex. It is an advertising for cassette tapes.

Could regression be how to access these recordings? There is evidence that indicates, yes. Regression is a means of accessing these records. They are not the patients own. The facts can be verified, as if ten different people replay the exact same information.

Regression Therapists need acknowledge that their patients (especially different ones describing the exact same experiences) are merely accessing records - someone elses records - in lieu of their own.

RE:Akashic access in Regression Therapy - MistakenID (Click to reply)
submitted: 5/31/2007 2:33 PM
by: shelbyloree@...

I have heard of those akashic records, and I think they are definately accessable to reconnect with the purpose of life.

However I was under the impression that they were not framed as video or photography, but more like vibration patterns. Therefore when you view your records you do not see pictures, you instead feel the electical currents.

And each is spectrum coded and colored, for instance if you were to view your life through the akashic records your life may have a violet tinge to it, because throughout life you have dwelt too long in dreams or fantasy.

These records also move forward and back in time, the past is just as fluid as the future. There is a blueprint of the future and the past in the records that most people can become aware of that was mapped out before or during the present physical form.

For instance have you ever encountered someone or something you've never met before and yet they feel intimately familiar? This is theoretically caused by the akashic records meaning you are moving with the flow of things, you are where you intended to be and you are on the right path. This is because you are in sync with your records.

When things are not going well, you are struggling against the current, feel like you're being left behind, left out, being dragged down by others is because you are veering away from your intended life mapped out for you through the akashic records.

You can keep struggling against it and fighting it as much as you want, but in the end you will go back to what you had intended for yourself.

Of course everyone must veer off and wander through the unknown occationally to keep the interest, but if it is to the point where you are severely depressed and despondent you need to take a look at things and reconnect with your akashic records to see how you can get back to your original plan.

I think more people should become aware of the akashic records to understand where they are in life, and how to get rid of those feelings of, where did I go wrong? Did I go wrong? What am I supposed to be doing anyway? Am I going in the right direction? What is the point?

It could cut down on a lot of people's dependency on outside influences telling them what they need to do and how to feel.

	John Mack 1994 interview (Click to reply) submitted: 1/7/2007 3:30 PM by: sapaley@...
	There is an excellent interview of John Mack on the Charlie Rose show dated Aug 15 1994. This interview is available for download on Google videos.

One japanese man saw ufos everyday in peru (Click to reply)
submitted: 12/4/2006 6:03 PM
by: teoaelforce@...

It is not my experience but one Japanese student used to travel Peru and Amazon alone.he lost his stuffs and money everything by thieves in Peru and he could not be back to Japan for a year or more years. He had to make money in Peru for a while and he got a job in a small village Peru. Durin he had work in the village, UFO appeared on front of him everyday or every week , I am not sure but often. And he saw the UFOs , alians insude of the UFOs who watched him and thier faces were so sad to see him. He could be back to Japan after a year or two years. He used be a student but he started to work in japan. According to his story, he was not abdacuted by alians but the alians worried about him.

By they way, I found a HP show us 7 UFOs and crossing like a christian cross. I saw the picture and the UFOs on the galf before the Hurricane Katarina . Some people saw it from different places but in a same time. According to the auther, he thought it was sign. And I felt so too, but different view I have for it. The auther thinks it is a sign but sodom and gomora it is going to happen in The USA. But This is not right, I think so. UFOs may show us something but it is not be panished by God. People are confusing UFOs and God and etc. And most of time, some people tend to see only bad part of the events. But Hurricane katarina killed 14 people , it was very small inspite of a big hurricane, was it really bad sign?

I also wonder some people saw alians and ufos during they used drugs. But I am not. I saw UFOs with many people without any smoke and drungs and I was a kid. Last one I saw it when I had been smoked legal tabaco but I did not smoke it duruing I had experience it. And the information by some of strange power told me " Quit tababco" that's why I quit !

The kind of power , when I doubted it, it was happened until I admitted it.

Now I feel same thing about cropcircles, when some people dubt the cropcircles, it is gonna be complicated cicle not like a manmade until almsot people admit it as a some kind of special power by outers or somebody morethan people.

I missed my time but I got a my faith and saw something new but they strange something did not hurt me but helped me from people's streams.

Everybad mistakes made by people, we have to admit that someetime.

Difference many experiences around the world (Click to reply)
submitted: 11/16/2006 9:11 PM
by: teoaelforce@...

Experiences watching UFOs are not so different but I wonder why some saw gray and some had really bad memory from UFO and alians.I had a missing time 1994 in Japan, I also had really strange experiences and many for 6months and more, everyday.But I have never seen alians and I would not to see them.Sometime, I feel natural feeling , like someone's intention, I beleive someone's message.It is not so bad. When I saw the UFO in 1994, that was so beautiful and colorful lights, it had.I felt rally soothing and no evil intention.Really pure and safe and calm and kind. I read someJapanes article, one guy saw alians who looked like a humen at all.According to him, many alians stay on the earth as humen.Thier age is 2ooo year-old and more...from another planet.They do teleportation. I have an missing time, so I think it is possible to teleport by some kind of power. But I think humen on the earth , some are fighting and some are helping animals and peoples and nature etc... So even alians are many type of alians, I hope they only have good intention , like a God or more. Yes, I am afraid of extraordinal experience 1994 and still we can see photos and videos and tv.

But we are OK now and we can have conversation here. This is meaningful. After I had the experience, I felt I was helped by UFO from humen, people around me was abusing me at that time, I remembered it. So I am confusing for a long time. By the way, if people can have each own UFO in future, how about that? Is it possible to telepot and fly and move to another place in a moment? It is cool. How can we do it? I really beleive that the UFO gave me this story.

Difference between UFO and psychic and cult (Click to reply)
submitted: 11/16/2006 6:45 PM
by: teoaelforce@...

Hi!I had missing time in Oct.27 194 was tatally 12 hours in my house and I saw a really beautiful UFO closely. After such a experience, I beleive some people have super natural power and most of people use for peaceful way and try to help people. But recentlly I disapointed a man who is selling a really expensive chinese divination , called Rokkou in Japan. His site is so strange some comentators attack my story. This Japanese guy is selling many things and expensive, and mixes up some products with psychic power etc. I believe this chinese psychic woman is real one but she does not know him well. He is also using stories of experiene of Alians, I also sent my story but he did not like that. He is not a real reasercher and he is using some cult power. This is creepy! They beleive they can read people's future and past time etc. And one came to my room, yes, my bed room. I acctually saw the blue light was flying in my bed room. And it brought me an image, crying woman. I was crying because of thier verbal attacking to me. He told me only one word, " I don't have a vocation to know and show my report here." I wrote to him, if we could use psychic power to prevent accidents etc. He did not like this opinion at all. The point is what I don't like him, he is only selling goods related super natural powers include UFO. He does not appriciate that and peoples. I was disapointed him and his chat friends. verbally attacking in the internet is also a criminal acction by them, I was so surprised him. He uploads my username in his top page and try to let me read his chat. When I read his chat, only verbal attacking to me.In Japan , some people are like him, only making money and using people etc. I beleived some psychic in China who can move things and cars and even themselves to another place. But some chinese psychic use thier power to get jewels from richer shops. Then they don't send back these jewels to the shop where they teleported jewels from. His site intruduces such stories with UFO and ,,,, you know I disapointed them at all. I am praying for peace and safe and write and commnets at many places to change some. My action is not to make money, we can have another job or businesses and can commnets as a person at anywhere. Could you understand my feeling? Nowaday, there are some frauds around the world. I had a missing time and saw UFOs three times in my life. But I don't have intent to fraud people and steal things by my small psychic power after I got it since I saw UFO1994. I mean, I am alone , I don't belong to any UFO society except here, forum.I am rally sad and angree against some.

Bilocation spiritussanctus@... (Click to reply)
submitted: 10/5/2006 9:30 AM
by: leoz113@...

Was this your friends family having dinner and if so, did they confirm they had seen you? and by this I mean they would have already had dinner before the 'argument' took place, if so this is bilocation. To know bilocation from personal experience you need confirmation from a third party or parties, for example if you were at home at 3.00pm and a friend tells you the next day they saw you in the supermarket ( which you both frequent )at 3.00pm and they are upset that you ignored them, when in fact you went there at 4.00pm, then this would be a strong case for bilocation. Given, their watch or however they checked the time was correct.

Bilocation (Click to reply)
submitted: 10/5/2006 8:49 AM
by: leoz113@...

Yes, I think you are right about this ability but it may have been depleted in the past by the industialisation of modern society and by that I mean specificaly the language differences before and after industrialisation took place. Also the social changes and values have an effect on the senses, if anything a dulling effect. For example the Kalahari bushmen who live 'primitive' lives are able to point to magnetic north within one degree and track by sight and smell in a way that 'civilised' man cannot, quite simply our senses no longer register what they see and smell, yet it may have been possible at an earlier time in our evolution. This is of course a generalisation within specific sensual borders but applicable by what is and what is not 'normal'. Bilocation is hard to define and record in as much that it requires a third party to validate it. If I were to go for a dental appointment and the receptionist looked a little surprised, maybe shocked when I said " Hello, sorry I am bit late, got held up in the traffic." and then said to me " But you came here half an hour ago and I told you Dr.Smith slipped on the step and had to go to the hospital with a fracture, I remade your appointment with Dr.Brown for tomorrow at 3.00." I might say " No, that was not me, you have made a mistake, half an hour ago I was stuck in traffic two miles away." then the receptionist would check the appointments book and show it to me. If I were to push the point then she would, if she knew me well, know that I was not 'spinning a yarn' and this would without doubt frighten her. If this situation had happened before elsewhere I would not push the point, knowing the effect. It is here that we have third party validation, the problem is retaining it and also this has to occur on a number of occasions for the phenomena to be understood as something other than 'error' or 'a practical joke'. When this situation is repititious, then it may well be bilocation, that is, having ruled out 'jokers', 'unknown twins', 'stalkers' etc. I do know of a specific case where this took place over a period of eight years on many occasions with other linked paranormal phenomena and know it to be true. Defining bilocation is difficult because it does not take place in the 'now', the present, as most other phenomena does, which makes it hard to grasp. It is very disconcerting and often frightening for the third party concerned making confirmation difficult but there is no doubt that bilocation as described here does take place, to research this would require an ongoing situation to make it viable.

Bilocation (Click to reply)
submitted: 10/5/2006 8:47 AM
by: leoz113@...

Bilocation (Click to reply)
submitted: 9/15/2006 6:20 PM
by: kokomob67@...

About "bilo" I do think we as humans have always had this ability at a minor level, yet untapped? What say you? I have to say it peaked my interest alot. I am new to this site and more "aware" of my experiences now. I think it was something defenitely tested by the abductors, as in a spatial awareness sense? I wonder if there is any ongoing in depth research being done on this? I think it is along the lines of our evolution of "interdimensional awareness??" --BC

RE: Biolocation (Click to reply)
submitted: 8/10/2006 10:25 AM
by: spiritussanctus@...

In my teenage years I had a few expeiriences that were strange to me and have never happened again. Four times I had gotten and pulsing in my head and passed out uncontrollably. To be honest I had been using marijuana at these times but had used it before and since had never had these episodes occur again. The one that episode I thought might be of interest to your post was this: I was waiting for a friend and she had begun having an argument with her sig. other so as I was waiting by the door for awhile I decided to go wait outside to escape the tension. I reached for the door and opened it then all of a sudden I was on my stomach it seemed in a living room of sorts and I could see a family having dinner. I realized that they started asking questions about who that was on the floor as it appeared they could see me as well, I remember feeling very shocked that they could see me, and a little frightened. All of a sudden it seemed I blinked and I was on my back with my friend standing over me tapping my face and saying my name. It felt very real and unlike any hallucination or the like I had ever experienced. Im not sure if this was a type of biolocation you mean but I strongly feel that those people eating dinner definatly saw my spirit or something that day.

Bilocation (Click to reply)
submitted: 5/4/2006 2:41 PM
by: leoz113@...

I do not think that the term 'bilocation'nor it's general description fully explains this phenomena and I would be interested to discuss this with anyone who has had this experience related to them by the other person or persons,which may or may not be connected to UFO sightings or abduction. By the other person or persons, I mean the recipient or recipients of the phenomena, e.g. 'I saw you in the theatre last night and said hello but you did not answer' ( when in fact I was at home). This may happen once and is often dismissed quite easily, however if it occurs many times over a number of years it cannot be attributed to error.

	Our Internet (Click to reply) submitted: 4/12/2006 1:40 PM by: jshorvath@...
	Regardless of our cultural differences - there is a continuity of consciousness – a common inner voice amongst us, if you will. Call it the super consciousness, the matrix or fabric of consciousness, or whatever one might choose to name it; nevertheless, we are all interconnected. Collectively, we are our higher self – we are all a piece of this vast network –or internet- of consciousness.

	RE:Our Internet (Click to reply) submitted: 4/13/2006 10:38 AM by: sapaley@...
	I agree. It is what Carl Jung termed the collective unconscious.

	RE:Our Internet (Click to reply) submitted: 9/15/2006 6:24 PM by: kokomob67@...
	I agree. I beleive that as a part of the superconciousness, we can tap the awareness of molecular Force/Gravity/Matter sensations between ourselves and our surroundings??? Hmmm --BC

	John Mack (Click to reply) submitted: 3/26/2006 12:21 PM by: ultan@...
	John Mack supposedly has made afterlife communication with a medium. I seriously hope someone is geniunely taking down and compiling all of this possible and credible information.

	love (Click to reply) submitted: 3/16/2006 3:09 PM by: runnindog@...
	Aliens(in jojn macks book) seem to bileave people in freedom. I want be free and I want express my love

	RE:love (Click to reply) submitted: 3/16/2006 9:05 PM by: xeno_being@...
	I second the motion : Love And plenty of it... And especially "Dat Ole Blak Majik Kalt LUV"...

	RE:love (Click to reply) submitted: 5/31/2007 2:37 PM by: shelbyloree@...
	You need one part love, two parts gratitude. As per Masaru Emoto - The Hidden Messages in Water

Abductees, Experiencers, Contactees (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/14/2006 10:18 PM
by: Kay_is_here@...

My two children and I have had many experiences with the Greys. At first it was very terrifying for all of us. The hardest part for me was trying to find information that could help me and my children. I have read many books about other people's experiences but I never seemed to get the answers that I needed to explain to my children as to what is going on let alone understand myself. Well I have just finished reading the most amazing book, which has helped me on so many levels and has helped me immensely with my fear. Except for John Mack's books this book called 'Looking Through Eyes of Love' written by Judy Carroll has answered so many of my questions. She has written this book in the form of fiction, which makes it so much easier to read and to take the information in. She writes about the reasons behind abduction experiences, the history of Human/ET/Universal Evolution and expansion of the human mind through the Contact Experience, and much much more. It was so wonderful to read a book with such groundedness, and seemingly genuine factual information, and to my surprise the writer has a wonderful sense of humour which is so breathtaking. Some other books I have read have had so much fear surrounding the whole contact scene they made me feel worse, but this book (Looking Through Eyes of Love, published by Zeus Publications) has given me so much understanding and hope. I don't know if I am allowed to recommend a book on this forum, but I felt it so important in trying to help other people who are also looking for guidance and understanding on such an emotional and complex subject. Thank You

RE:Abductees, Experiencers, Contactees (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/20/2006 6:03 PM
by: she@...

I can sympathize with your situation and so I was inspired to make a short reply. I can understand that need to find answers for your children's sake. As a mother you want to both protect and educate your children. But these kinds of experiences hold no grand consensual framework in our current society. At the very most we have fringe folk-knowledge on what this all means, and how to deal with it. You have dived into some of this fringe knowledge contained in books and like you said, it is mostly permeated with fear.

It is good to know that you have found an outside source, 'Looking Through Eyes of Love’, as a reasonable guide. Since it is a fictional writing I take it you are digesting the principles in the book, rather than looking for factual content?

Like your children, I grew up in a household where both my mother and myself had experiences with the “Greys”. I am now 24 years old. But unlike you and your situation, my mother has consistently fallen deeper into fear and distrust – her focus for fear and distrust includes not only the “Greys”, but also other aspects of her social life as well. Interestingly, I took the middle route, meaning the “Greys” were neither my demons nor angels, but something fascinatingly Other. Interacting with the “Greys” made me deeply curious in differences, perception of difference, and how these differences of mind are negotiated between actors in such a mutual dynamic. My relationship with the “Greys” turned me into an anthropologist – I studied anthropology in college. I see our relationship as a most confusing and challenging negotiation and I am trying to figure out how this negotiation works! Ha!

You are concerned for your children. I on the other hand am concerned for my mother. I have desired to help my mother with her relationship with these beings, but her black and white perspective on good and evil brings our conversation to a halt. We can’t even talk about the subject any longer. This is very disheartening, because I do know that in experiences with the “Greys” fear brings any real dialogue with them to a halt.

Hopefully for your children you can bring a sense of responsible non-fear. Not naivety, but rather a mindful contemplation of the complexity and the subtlety of the situation. Dealing with alien minds I think requires the most of our human capacities. How do your children respond to the “Greys”. In my first experiences, starting at 9, I reacted with strong curiosity and delight. It was quite amazing.

RE:Abductees, Experiencers, Contactees (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/21/2006 10:47 PM
by: Kay_is_here@...

Thank you for your reply. Our experiences started (consciously)six years ago. I say consciously because I realised that we have had many experiences way before that, but just never recognised them as such. You just don't realise how closed minded you are until you start having experiences. I think it is the fear of the unknown that is the hardest part to overcome and also learning to think outside of the box.

At first I thought it was all about my children but now realise, through their experiences they were guiding me to look at myself, to open up and to grow. My daughter was 12yrs old when her experiences started. She was fearful at first but has now grown to love them and thinks of them like family. They have helped her in many ways and on many levels of her being. As for my son, he started having very bad night terrors at the age of 7, he is now 13. The night terrors have now ceased (Thank God)and I would say he is about 90% over his fear. When my son was in the middle of his night terror nothing I did seemed to help him until one night I said to him "Remember the Love" and he calmed down straight away. It was almost like magic. I couldn't believe it! I don't know what made me think of it, I just blurted it out. Last year he kept having the same bad dream over three nights. I told him that in his dream he has magical powers and that Love is his power and that he can overcome anything bad or negative with Love and that bad people feed off his fear. You know he never had that dream again. I believe that once he conscioulsy understood about his own power within his lesson was learnt.

I started having my own experiences about a year after my children started getting theirs. I am now very thankful for our experiences. The Greys that visit us just feel like family now. Once we moved through the fear it was like a big door opening up to so much love. The biggest lessons we have learnt is that we are all in this Universe and all made from the same energy source. We have learnt to keep things simple and to listen to our gut feelings and to have a lot more trust and faith.

What has helped me immensely to come to some understanding in all this for myself was Reiki. Reiki taught me so much about energies, reincarnation and karma, let alone helping me through the many moments of depleted energy.

My heart goes out to your Mum, breaking down of barriers is not easy. I think the stronger your belief system is the harder it is to break through the fear. I never realised until I was put to the test, so to speak, but I now understand that open mindedness can make the journey a lot easier.

Although it is written as "fiction" I believe the book 'Looking Through Eyes of Love' is based very firmly on the Author's own contact experiences with the Greys. Many things described in the book almost exactly parallel my children's and my own experiences. As well as this the book contains inspiring and helpful Philosophical teachings and explanations of procedures, implants etc that makes so much sense.

I would love you to read the book one day and to see what your thoughts are on this. You never know it might even help your Mum.

	For Santiago: (Click to reply) submitted: 3/11/2006 8:46 AM by: nanna_natalia@...
	Mandi mi un email a nanna_natalia@hotmail.com, e racconta le tue esperienze - magari sono lostesse che aveva il mio padre.

sad times (should have listened) (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/8/2006 2:33 PM
by: mneher3@...

Well, it seems that the information presented to "abductees" is quickly becoming reality for all. They can't be passed off as just crazy anymore when all the proof is here. Our over-population and desecration of our planet has caused a larger crisis than anyone could imagine. Other species are in decline,our climate is rapidly changing,the oceans and rivers are near toxic (and did anyone sound any alarms when New Orleans left overs were dumped back into the ocean?)I'm sure they had limited options but still,it was a quick and dirty way to solve the problem. And with these impending nuclear confrontations..... We are far past the point of no return and I must say I am shamed by my fellow man. My hope is that we won't wipe out too many more species before we destroy ourselves. Because at least without humans here, the other animals might stand a chance. John Mack is a hero and should always be thought of as a leader. More people need to have the balls to speak out and bring attention to our growing catastrophe. And just face it people, the more it is ignored and denied,the faster our demise will be.

	John Mack (Click to reply) submitted: 2/8/2006 11:49 AM by: sapaley@...
	John Mack was just recently mentioned on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on 2/4/06. Art was interviewing John's friend and collegue Richard Tarnas. It was an excellent program about astrology and conciousness. It was great to hear Richard talk about John and the obvious love and respect he had for him. John Mack's life lives on...

	absudity (Click to reply) submitted: 2/4/2006 9:43 PM by: jocariah@...
	It is absurd to think ,that abductees exist as abductees. They are, in actuality, the product of a higher order, monitored, tracked and controled as they exist, for the purpose established by that higher order. To mis this is to fail to comprehend the larger picture here.. we are not our own, but rather the product of a higher order. .

	RE:absudity (Click to reply) submitted: 3/16/2006 9:08 PM by: xeno_being@...
	No News World Order for Me thanks...

RE:absurdity (Click to reply)
submitted: 4/6/2006 11:43 PM
by: jasperjames007@...

mmm.. yes i really tend to disagree here. There are many things afoot on this little ball of dirt for many different species. For Ones that are here and beyond. besides you can't tell me that free will does not exist, that is the realm of our existence here. there is no other place anywhere that you can have the experiences as we have here within this space time continuum. Thats why beings are attracted to us.. due to mass brain washing this fact is the very element that makes us special b/c this kind of game doesnt quite happen like this any place else its kind of what makes this the "place to be" in the galaxy at the moment.

Abductees, Contactees or Experiencers (Click to reply)
submitted: 11/8/2005 11:08 AM
by: jshorvath@...

Abductees are, without a doubt, one of the most misunderstood factions of late. We have been disregarded, ridiculed, exploited and censured – all of this taking place as we ourselves struggle to determine our own identity, one that encompasses all of our extraordinary and varied experiences. It’s rather like coming to terms with your surroundings, as these surroundings are constantly being changed, constantly held in flux relative to who and where we are – in short, we are asked to understand what has and is continually happening to us as we exist on this untenable ground, never knowing with any degree of certainty what’s next for us, what might lie around the next corner, the next nights’ incident. We exist as nomads, wandering through our own lives as it were, without the luxury of any apparent normalcy that most others take for granted – subconsciously, mind you, but existing in all of us nonetheless.

But for us, those of us known of as Abductees, Contactees, Experiencers or whatever one might choose to call us, this is our normalcy, our existence, whether we choose to accept it or not.

We have been burned, subconsciously etched by our experiences, constantly reminded of our plight with each new occurrence, with each new episode encountered. Add to the fact that each of us is at a different point in the cycle of the Abductee experience, a different point in the realization and integration of our experiences, and you come to realize that no two of us are in the same orbit as it were – we are constantly evolving in the experiencing of our individual experience – that experience being peculiar to each one of us.

...

Lenient Sentence for Mack's Murderer (7/10/2005) (Click to reply)
submitted: 10/19/2005 5:44 AM
by: xeno_being@...

Dr. Mack, as a professor of psychiatry, might have preferred that his killer would receive proper treatment and rehabilitation for a medically recognised disease rather than any horror and hell of a six-month mandatory prison sentence. It is possible that incidents, such as the murder of Dr. Mack, are never pure random events and there are personalities, Entities, at work behind the scenes, in the domain of the subconcious Mind, who conduct Warfare between opposing Value Systems, e.g. the War between what is Healthy and what is Un-Healthy, using Creatures like People as Pawns in the Game. Perhaps Dr. Mack was one of the Soldiers killed in this type Holy War. We can be thankful that Dr. Mack did not suffer long or spend large portions of his life tortured by an Official Inquisition and overbearing Thought Police CIA/KGB Activities. I for one will avoid EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HARD DRUGS such as ALCOHOL (that the Big Money Rubes ruling over Britain and other lands are seeking to increase, through expanded Booze Promotion and Consumption, similar to their Control and Domination tactics back in Russia). *** R.I.P. Dr. Mack *** I salute You and all other valiant Souls of Conscience slain in the Battle of Life. May You be Rewarded with plenty Healthy Meaningful Life in the HereAfter and avoid being a Victim of Drug Abuse (Alcohol Abuse) for a long long time...

Tampering with the unknown (Click to reply)
submitted: 10/17/2005 2:42 PM
by: AntonioPumarejo@...

My condolences goes to the John E. Mack family. I must mention, I believe he was getting to close to something he did not fully understand and then became a victim of it. We all must understand that everything in this planet happens for a reason, I myself, feel like I am the victim of the unknown. I believe that I, just like a millions of others are picked randomly to preform a task on this planet except many have trouble understanding it, and the sad thing about this is, only those who are picked, get to experience this phenomenon, and for those humans who don't, they of course will never accept such a thing, and why? Because seeing is believing and thats a fact. Which of course is why people think they are crazy, but for others, story's such as these make good entertainment for the non believers. The point I am trying to make is, we humans been dealing with this same phenomenon since humans set foot on the planet, and many haven't been able to figure it out yet, because since the beginning of time, everyone has for one reason or another taken the easy way out, by creating and accepting religious believes, to cover a truth that will be harder to except. Check out this web site which goes deeper into the subject no one in this planet wishes to accept. www.freewebs.com/creatorsproject

Holotropic Breathwork and addiction (Click to reply)
submitted: 9/19/2005 4:24 PM
by: adrian@...

There doesn't seem to be an e-mail link, so I'm directing this comment here. The thesis of this projected study by JEMI is that addiction results from intoxication in a misguided effort to achieve transcendence, in search of enlightenment, etc. I am an addict in recovery with 8 years clean. I was also a Woodstock Generation hippie, first. I agree with this thesis, but suggest that those pursuing transcendence through intoxication - as I and many of my friends were with LSD, psilopsybin, mescaline, etc. - must typically also have trauma or some deep pain that they've been supressing, and now need artifical help to keep it down. Most of my hippie friends didn't become addicts, while most addicts I've met have had the trauma and pain that I did. The latter can, I believe, stand alone as a cause of addiction, drug or otherwise, but the search for transcendence can prove to be a specific route into that particular hell. So I agree with the JEMI thesis, but feel that an additional factor must be present. There is a big difference between someone who uses drugs a lot and a true addict, who can't stop using even when they realize that they're killing themselves - maybe they even want to die. I will be pleased to discuss this with anyone who has an interest, but I hope in particular that some researcher at JEMI will take note in order to inform their project thesis. Thank you; Adrian

Abduction (Click to reply)
submitted: 9/16/2005 6:46 PM
by: mneher3@...

I've just recently read John Mack's first book on the alien abduction experience. It was fascinating and extremely informative, to all those who are still desperately searching for answers-read his work! John Mack did a wonderful job of being open-minded and supportive to his subjects. I got more information out of this single book than I have gotten with years of online research. Not to mention the fact that he was the first author on this subject (that I'm aware of)who did not mold the stories into fitting his own ideals.

	RE:Abduction...more...than...years of...research (Click to reply) submitted: 10/19/2005 5:52 AM by: xeno_being@...
	Thanks for your enthusiasm and appraisal. I will try to check out some of Dr. Mack's books, read, digest and then place them as donations in some lending libraries to help some People to acheive more Open-Minds. By the way, I have been a contact of UFO Intelligences and so I can vouch 100% for Their Reality. For more details, please visit * http://www.geocities.com/intelligences * Thank You!

Thank You.. (Click to reply)
submitted: 10/28/2005 5:31 PM
by: mneher3@...

It would be great for the books to be more widely available. If they contact you fairly regularly then I'm hoping you can give me some insight. I just don't understand why any non-human intelligence would be involved in any system of government. What do they have to gain from it? Also,a huge number of people have been told about our self-destrucion. They've been warned about end of the world scenarios like global warming and nuclear war. Well, war in general for that matter. Anyway, if our self-destruction is around the corner what are entities gaining from participating in our everyday struggles for control? Is anyone trying to save us from ourselves or are they just as foolish as we are?

	Thank You (Click to reply) submitted: 9/5/2005 10:00 PM by: patrick99@...
	This was a very good lead. Since then I have found several others with very similiar experiences. These experiences have been very positive ...even though unnverving at first. The feeling is of finding familiar again and remembering who we really are.

divine purposes? (Click to reply)
submitted: 8/16/2005 2:27 PM
by: mneher3@...

I'm not sure I understand the idea that higher beings would warn people about future events if they had a hand in them.I believe that the Bush administration is corrupt and that we have been warned of our self-destruction to no avail.We have taken the warnings out of context(twisted them)and therefore we're too far down the path to avoid destroying ourselves.It's too bad we lacked the understanding to prevent it.

RE:divine purposes? (Click to reply)
submitted: 8/26/2005 3:51 AM
by: xeno_being@...

I'm not sure of why I was given this vision. But it proved to me that the Future can be Predestined by Advanced Beings such as Intelligences.

I try not to resort to continual Bush Bashing since George is probably a very sick man being controlled and influenced by other similar sick psychopathic individuals at the Top of the Pyramid, perhaps even some who are not People...

P.S.

I am a Space Intelligences' contact mentioned in Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove's book "The PK Man" that featured an intro by Dr. Mack,

God Bless Dr. Mack wherever he may be...

http://www.williamjames.com/pkman.htm

RE:divine purposes? (Click to reply)
submitted: 9/17/2005 10:36 AM
by: mneher3@...

I don't mean to get into all the "contraversial" subjects like "Bush Bashing" but it just occurred to me that if he is sick and his administration is consisting of similar psychopathic people, Why Are We Letting Them Run Our Country?!?! I don't believe that mental illness gives people the excuse to do whatever they want-it shouldn't anyway.But then again people seem to think backward as time goes on.Shouldn't someone do something?? I don't think that people who are destroying lives to benefit their own agenda should be felt sorry for just because they're getting "picked on."

RE:Bush Bashing...destroying lives... (Click to reply)
submitted: 10/19/2005 6:06 AM
by: xeno_being@...

Certainly there are more than Bush, Blair and Putin running the Governments and Economies of the US, UK and USSR. Has anyone ever heard of Khazars, the very influential elite (of Russian stock) ruling over these subservient countries ? ***http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler*** ***http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/koestler.htm*** ***http://www.ntimc.org/attachments/dec2004/iron_curtain_over_am
erica1.pdf?PHPSESSID=d717018de9d93eb88610b2c7df81d792*** It is possible that Dr. Sigmund Freud, the official psychiatrist of the Communist Revolution, was of Khazar descent, as were a Majority of the Elite ruling over Russia in those years. And then there is the possibility of Aliens and/or some other types of Entities also assisting or encouraging Rule by certain favourite Human Elites...

Black Pearl : 911 in 973 (Click to reply)
submitted: 8/15/2005 3:33 AM
by: xeno_being@...

In September 1973 I was a soldier at Fort Sill, Oklahoma USA.

There had been many UFO (Alien Flying Object) sightings on and nearby the base, a great em-bare-ass-ment to "national security" (control by Big Money War Criminals).

Then late one night a UFO Intelligence visited and gave me some visions.

(Visions are like dreams but happen when awake.)

In one vision I was shown the pilots' cabin of a large aircraft:

Many gauges and controls were on the instrument panels. A handsome dark-skinned man was flying the plane. A view out the front windows revealed the massive wall of a large low building.

The plane was about to smash into the building!

The Intelligence told me the building was an important government building and because of the crash there would be a massive increase in "national security", a threat to public rights.

The vision was so REAL it could have been the 911 Pentagon attack 28 years before it happened. (Some of the Future already exists!)

Can anyone of Science please explain this to me?

Is it possible that Intelligences can

visit the site of a future event, witness the event, possibly even assist in causing the event, and then relay information about the occurrence of the event Back in Time to someone living as a People Person 28 years earlier?

Conclusion:

I believe AllahAlmightyGod is the most Loving Compassionate Nonviolent Being over Creation but conclude that the surgical strikes of 911 were possibly predestined by Higher Beings for some Divine Purpose or Justice.

No Human military or economy is above the Law of Nature !

	reply (Click to reply) submitted: 8/14/2005 8:13 PM by: mneher3@...
	Thank You!!It's great to get some useful advice.

JEMI REPLIES (Click to reply)
submitted: 8/13/2005 6:11 PM
by: info@...

It is true this forum was never set up properly, but we are not able to make a new forum. Therefore I'd like to recommend author Whitley Strieber's forum, located at www.unknowncountry.com/board Many experiencers are there, and all are welcomed - provided one respects their policies regarding respecting other people's opinions. Look for the subsection titled "UFOs, Ufology & the Unexplained". Though it has its share of immature users, the ratio of mature to immature is quite favorable.

	RE:JEMI REPLIES (Click to reply) submitted: 8/13/2005 6:53 PM by: info@...
	Please consider the idea of signing in to that alternate website forum as an advisory as much as a suggestion; we cannot ensure that the JEMI forum will be maintained for much longer. We wouldn't want any associations that formed here to end unexpectedly, so please take a moment to visit unknowncountry.com/board and establish yourself there.

	This Forum (Click to reply) submitted: 8/13/2005 1:46 PM by: jocariah@...
	This forum, such as it exists (i.e., its style and function) is not conducive to discourse. Also, abductees, experiencers or the like, are not meant to come together with others of their kind – they are meant to experience their existence on their own – isolated from any other group or groups of abductees. That is our script, having been laid out for us, as it has. .

more active (Click to reply)
submitted: 8/8/2005 7:04 PM
by: mneher3@...

I'm dissappointed,to say the least,that there is so little discussion going on here. I think that people who are serious about this need to come together and communicate more often. Besides,there should be more information available to future generations of abductees.For those of you who have searched long and hard you know there are alot of sites just loaded full of B.S.And people who are genuinely trying to understand are being misled in alot of ways.There just aren't enough groups serious enough to meet the demands of a growing number of these experiencers.

	please reply (Click to reply) submitted: 8/8/2005 6:49 PM by: mneher3@...
	I hope someone will be able to give me some insight on overcoming fear issues.There must be some sort of method or something,I don't know.I don't have a negative view toward them at all yet the fear is sometimes so overpowering.I'd like to move away from negative emotions and get down to the reality of what's happenning.Please give me some advice.

	italiana in cerca di risposte (Click to reply) submitted: 8/6/2005 7:43 AM by: forsantiago@...
	ciao a tutti esiste qualcuno che mi racconti le sue esperienze???mi piacerebbe conoscere delle persone italiane le cui vite si sono trasformate dopo queste esperienze.grazie

Lifelong visitations (Click to reply)
submitted: 7/9/2005 10:46 AM
by: Arifsings_1@...

I was born in the UK. I have lived here all my life. The Aliens have visited me intermittently throughout my life starting from childhood. I am part of an experiment that they are conducting.They burst into my life when I was 29 in a big way. I started having powerful supernatural experiences.They wreaked havoc in my life.Over a five year period they shattered my life and my mind because I would not comply with their wishes. There was utter distruction.The specific details of the experiences I do not wish to disclose here just yet. I feel completely drained of psychic and emotional energy. I felt as though they raped me.It was an intense experience.It was very shocking and traumatic. They still visit me to this day. They visited one evening approximately two weeks ago.

...And touched the sound of silence. (Click to reply)
submitted: 6/13/2005 12:33 PM
by: terrywa@...

After watching the DVD, 'Touched' (by Laurel Chiten), I later happened to hear this song (below) on the radio. In a strange way, it seemed to put the entire DVD to music. See if you agree:

Hello darkness, my old friend, I've come to talk with you again, Because a vision softly creeping, Left its seeds while I was sleeping, And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains Within the sound of silence. In restless dreams I walked alone Narrow streets of cobblestone, 'Neath the halo of a street lamp, I turned my collar to the cold and damp When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light That split the night And touched the sound of silence. And in the naked light I saw Ten thousand people, maybe more. People talking without speaking, People hearing without listening, People writing songs that voices never share And no one dare Disturb the sound of silence. "Fools" said I, "You do not know Silence like a cancer grows. Hear my words that I might teach you, Take my arms that I might reach you." But my words like silent raindrops fell, And echoed In the wells of silence And the people bowed and prayed To the neon god they made. And the sign flashed out its warning, In the words that it was forming. And the sign said, "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls And tenement halls." And whisper'd in the sounds of silence.

@ALBUM: Sounds of Silence By Simon and Garfunkel @SONG: The Sound of Silence (P. Simon, 1964)

Transformational Experiences (Click to reply)
submitted: 6/3/2005 11:10 PM
by: gwilliamsny11@...

Yates said that it took him many years to get in touch with his primary experience, and many more years to take his experience seriously. I have a similar story. I have been researching the perplexing anamolous phenomena called Synchronicities (Meaningful Coincidences) for the last 40 years. Although I began as a defacto Jungian I have shifted my perspective 180 degrees. While I believe these coded messages do in fact contain vital information about the self I do not believe that the origin of these events is from some transcendent realm of divine meaning passively received by an awe struck receiver.Rather the results of my research indicate that these striking events are a natural byproduct of ones idiosyncratic creative process. In place of Jung's reliance on the central role of the collective unconscious I find more value placed on the core concept of the collective consciousness and the personal unconscious. For a more detailed discussion I invite interested truth seekers to view my blog:Meaningful Connections and my web site: gibbsonline.com.

Silver blue energy beings (Click to reply)
submitted: 3/26/2005 1:01 AM
by: patrick99@...

I have been seeing silver blue energy beings these last two years. The connection is one of caring and love as well as guiding me to where I am supposed to be to change things. Others have felt their energy around me...usually to my right hand side. Only once have I seen one clearly but it was a vague silver blue with a human like shape. I am feeling drawn to learn more about aliens...there is a strong feeling of family.

	RE:Silver blue energy beings (Click to reply) submitted: 5/20/2005 9:37 AM by: pachacutec@...
	Hello Patrick, Interesting comment about the blue beings. My wife has seen violet beings but in recurrent dreams only. Perhaps you could read a book called Sacred Encounters, written by Janet Colli. She and her husband have been doing research on Interspecies Communication. I hope it helps, Gilgamesh

	Joseph Firmage (Click to reply) submitted: 3/5/2005 9:15 AM by: tx1solo@...
	Does anyone here know if Joseph Firmage still does public speaking? If not, does anyone know if he has a web site with his writings? Thank You, Julie

	RE:Joseph Firmage (Click to reply) submitted: 3/5/2005 10:58 AM by: ultanbr@...
	Joe Firmage's website is firmage.org. I hope this helps.

	RE:Joseph Firmage (Click to reply) submitted: 3/6/2005 9:15 AM by: tx1solo@...
	Thank You. I'll check out the web site.

	passing of Dr.Mack (Click to reply) submitted: 3/4/2005 11:15 AM by: morten.unneberg@...
	I was wondering about the drunk driver who hit Dr.mack. Does anyone know the name of the person and are they in jail now?

	RE:passing of Dr.Mack (Click to reply) submitted: 3/4/2005 12:13 PM by: ultanbr@...
	The driver's name is Raymond Czechowski. I believe that his court date is Sept 2005.

ROUND 2 CM IN DIAMETER BURN MARKS (Click to reply)
submitted: 2/12/2005 8:41 PM
by: nanna_natalia@...

I'm writing in the name of my father, who 30 years ago experienced being marked by aliens at his bedside in his sleep. When he woke up, he noticed his thigh was somewhat hurting, and saw a round mark of coagulated blood on his thigh which came off when trying to peel it off. No blood came out, the skin was just fresh - which normally is not the case; when someone gets a wound,it normally takes several days before the crust comes off by itself. This round part of my father's thigh never grew to have normal skin colour, nor hair grows there - it has just remained a white, round spot. Can the center, or someone please explain this phenomenon - as he 6 years ago wrote a letter to The John E. Mack Institute whithout ever getting an answer from anyone? At around the same time, he had also visited a dentist, who discovered taking exrays of his theeths, that my father has "soemthing" in his nose - could it be a microchip, as he had heard similar stories in a film of some kind based on whitnesses' stories? I would appreciate it, if the Insitute could answer him that question & wheteher there are more cases like his - not only in the States, but also Europe or Scandinavia? And what is this conference about extraordinary experiences in San Marino, Italy, supposedly every year - is there something anyone could direct us some information on? Thank You on beforehand, Nanna

Innocent after 20 years on death row (Click to reply)
submitted: 1/26/2005 3:34 PM
by: tflon@...

Great idea to help a cause right here on this board! Please read on!

Think for a minute about everything that you did from 1977-1997. Now, erase it all. That’s 20 years gone – BOOM – just like that. I’m only 21, so that would be a LIFETIME.

I saw a play that really moved me called “The Exonerated”. In short, the play tells the TRUE stories of people who spent years on death row before being found innocent and set free.

The play ran for years, but unfortunately, isn’t running anymore. But I just saw Court TV is doing a film-version of the same play with some bigtime actors/actresses i.e. Danny Glover, Susan Sarandon, etc.. It airs on Jan.27th @ 9PM, but I’d check their site to be sure if it’s the same in your time zone or whatever. www.courttv.com

I’m hoping that I could collect more people’s opinions here so I can print and mail them to my Congressman and even my Governor. Letters from actually people are powerful! Here’s a link to another documentary, which gave me the idea of how to get involved! http://deadlinethemovie.com/get_involved/take_action.php

So if you have thoughts on the death penalty, please share them here. Just imagine if it was you, or your friend, or family sitting innocent on death row. FYI One of my favorite songs has the line, “If you’re not going to make something better, than you’re just IN THE WAY!” Let’s all make something better right now.

Thanks so much!!

	Perception and Reality of Money (Click to reply) submitted: 1/10/2005 7:26 PM by: sk2know@...
	I did not know much about Dr Mack until recently. The fact that perception creates reality for the most is shown by how money is perceived and what the reality of mony is. This story is mostly unknown and books like John perkins and Eustace Mullins need to be read widely. See the article on transforming money here. http://www.seek2know.net/money2.html

	Welcome (Click to reply) submitted: 1/1/2005 11:05 AM by: info@...
	Happy New Year (2005) and welcome to the forums of the John Mack Institute. We apologize that we have been unable to visit our own message forum for quite some time (in fact, we'd never been able to succesfully log in until now!). We (any of the staff and volunteers at the John Mack Institute) may use this ID from time to time to check out the discussions.

The passing of Dr. John Mack (Click to reply)
submitted: 11/26/2004 1:27 PM
by: christa@...

I've only just become familier with the work of Dr. John Mack. It saddens me that we lost such a wonderful human being. I never thought a Harvard medical doctor would think out side the box and except a different view on reality. As for the circumstances surrounding his death, my first intial thought was that some one took him out. Considering that he does give the abduction phenomina credibility, but I hope that was not the case. It saddens me to think that there are people who are so afraid that will do anything to hold on to their current reality. Dr. John Mack will be greatly missed, and I give my condolences to his surving family. christa fournell

What was Dr. Mack working on? (Click to reply)
submitted: 11/22/2004 9:32 PM
by: yogasong44@...

I have noted that question in the thread. That was something my friends and I have questioned as well. Needless to say I was rather freaked out to see that he was a reviewer on the back cover of the book that just came out this month: Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man by John Perkins. If any of you have read this book you will know that it contains information that is quite critical of the workings of the U.S. government and corporate America. My question is.....what was John Mack's relationship to John Perkins?

RE:What was Dr. Mack working on? (Click to reply)
submitted: 11/26/2004 8:28 PM
by: maya@...

That is a very good question. I had no idea that Dr. Mack was a reviewer of John Perkins book. For anyone interested, I actually have a 33 minute radio interview (from Nov 8th) with John Perkins - all commercials edited and it's only 7.8 meg MP3 file. Loads of amazing and mind blowing information. Also, here is another interview with John Perkins from a different source: http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/09/1526251

	RE:What was Dr. Mack working on? (Click to reply) submitted: 12/7/2004 1:15 PM by: inuendo@...
	A useful idiot who took his role too seriously perhaps....?

RE:What was Dr. Mack working on? (Click to reply)
submitted: 12/12/2004 6:27 PM
by: maya@...

Actually, only an idiot who takes his role too seriously wouldn't understand the content material of this matter and its significance, its far reaching consequences and its twisted web of connections to seemingly unrelated matters. It is now evident that Dr.John Mack understood John Perkin's work and was even invloved in reviewing the book - which means he had even much greater knowledge of everything involved.

Only an illiterate idiot, who chooses to remain ignorant, would be so quick to carelessly criticize John Perkins work, and indirectly insult Dr.John Mack's intelligence.

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